Part 17 Does God the Father have a body?

Gina,
Thanks for writing. You are right about Satan. He can use truths to lead into a lie. Here in the Genesis 3 he is telling half-truths. Satan told Adam and Eve they would not die on the day they ate, and he was right, they didn’t die physically. However, they died spiritually and were separated in their relationship with God. Romans 6:23 explains, “The wages of sin is death but the gift of God is eternal life.” Death here is contrasted with eternal life. We earn death and separation from God due to sin. Physical death is part of the package but is not an immediate consequence of sin. All who believe in Jesus Christ will have eternal life; we will be with God for all eternity. In contrast Romans 6:23 says all who sin with receive death, eternal separation from God when they die. The point is, sin gives us eternal death and the gift from God gives us eternal life. Adam and Eve sinned earning them eternal death.

As far as being “like God” they were given knowledge that only God possessed. They became “like God” in only this one way. However, they only gained a limited knowledge of good and evil, not equal to God. The Biblical God is omniscient, all-knowing. They gained limited knowledge of good and evil. What Satan didn’t tell them was by eating they would be separated from God forever for their disobedience; they would also gain feelings of isolation, guilt, embarrassment, and fear. As was Satan’s plan, the cost far outweighed the benefit of gaining some knowledge. Where in this passage do we learn that we can progress to become a God? Are you saying we have to sin to be like God?

There is only 1 God. God proclaims over and over again there is only 1 God; no god formed before Him or after. Here are two examples of many:

Isaiah 43:10,11 — Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me. I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no savior.

Isaiah 44:6,8 — Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God. Fear ye not, neither be afraid; have not I told thee from that time, and have declared it? ye are even my witnesses. Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any.

The Biblical God disagrees with Joseph Smith. You cannot become a god! Who are you going to believe?

Steve

Gina,
Did you read my last reply? Your last series of comments was dealt with in my first reply to you. After you ignore my post you then correct me by making a straw man argument. Plus you ignored all my questions. If we are going to have a dialogue I need to you address my questions. Go back and reread my reply to your first series of comments.

Here are some examples of you ignoring what I said:

You wrote: “If you read it carefully, Satan did not say they would become gods but that they would be as gods, in that they would know good from evil. This was the truth.” Where in my reply did I say you will become god?

Here is what I previously said: “As far as being “like God” they were given knowledge that only God possessed. They became “like God” in only this one way. However, they only gained a limited knowledge of good and evil, not equal to God. The Biblical God is omniscient, all-knowing. They gained limited knowledge of good and evil. What Satan didn’t tell them was by eating they would be separated from God forever for their disobedience; they would also gain feelings of isolation, guilt, embarrassment, and fear. As was Satan’s plan, the cost far outweighed the benefit of gaining some knowledge. Where in this passage do we learn that we can progress to become a God? Are you saying we have to sin to be like God?” There is only 1 God. God proclaims over and over again there is only 1 God; no god formed before Him or after. I can provide a list of scriptures that teaches this.

Then you write to correct me: “The part that was a lie was telling them that they would not die.”

However, in my previous reply I wrote: “Satan told Adam and Eve they would not die on the day they ate, and he was right, they didn’t die physically. However, they died spiritually and were separated in their relationship with God. Romans 6:23 explains, “The wages of sin is death but the gift of God is eternal life.” Death here is contrasted with eternal life. We earn death and separation from God due to sin. Physical death is part of the package but is not an immediate consequence of sin. All who believe in Jesus Christ will have eternal life; we will be with God for all eternity. In contrast Romans 6:23 says all who sin with receive death, eternal separation from God when they die. The point is, sin gives us eternal death and the gift from God gives us eternal life. Adam and Eve sinned earning them eternal death.” Keep in mind God told Adam he would die on the “day” he ate from the tree in Gen. 2:15-17. Verse 17 reads… Genesis 2:17 “…but from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat from it you will surely die.” Adam and Eve died spiritually on the day they ate, just like God said they would.

Gina you commit the fallacy of a straw man argument, misrepresenting my position and then tearing it down. I will repeat my previous questions: Where in these passages do we learn that we can progress to become a God? Are you saying we have to sin to be like God?

Steve