Ongoing Conversations with Mormon Missionaries Part 6

Our strategy for this week was to begin to talk about the Godhead.  Mormonism is polytheistic (belief in more than one God).  They believe in a minimum of 3 separate and distinct gods.  In contrast Christianity believes in the Biblical doctrine of the Trinity.  One God subsists (continues to exist) in three persons Father, Son, and Holy Spirit; co-equal and co-eternal.  Historic Christianity is monotheistic (belief in one God).

This is an essential discussion because if they believe in a false Jesus (which they do) they are going to be separated from God for all eternity.  Jesus confronted the false belief of the Jewish religious leaders in John 8:24:  Therefore I said to you that you will die in your sins; for unless you believe that I am He, you will die in your sins.”  A person who has the wrong Jesus will die in their sins and spend eternity in hell.  This is why sharing with Mormons is so important.

Week 6:  Dylan and I met with our two Mormon missionaries friends.  Elder Baker informed us they couldn’t stay long, as Elder Livingston needed to finish packing to leave for his new location.  They said they didn’t have anything planned and were open to discuss any topic.  I reminded them of the 6 evidences I presented last time we met and how evidence was more important as a measure of truth over and against their heart.  I also brought up the scenarios that either we were wrong and they were right, or they were wrong and we were right.  I said the scenario that we both could be wrong could be thrown out because neither of us believed that.  They both laughed.

I said one of our differences has to do with how we view God.  I said Dylan and I believe in the doctrine of the Trinity; one God subsists in 3 persons Father, Son, and Holy Spirit; co-equal and co-eternal.  I asked, what do you believe about the Godhead?  They said they believe in 3 separate beings; the Father is a god, the Son another god, and the Holy Spirit a 3rd god.  I said both of us cannot be right.

I then reminded them of what the Apostle Paul wrote in 2 Corinthians.  I had them turn to chapter 11 verses 3-4.  I read the passage: But I am afraid that, as the serpent deceived Eve by his craftiness, your minds will be led astray from the simplicity and purity of devotion to Christ. 4 For if one comes and preaches another Jesus whom we have not preached, or you receive a different spirit which you have not received, or a different gospel which you have not accepted, you bear this beautifully.”   I said one of us is preaching a false Jesus and it is because of Satan.  They agreed with that.

I said what I find interesting is that the Book of Mormon seems to teach the Trinity.  I had them turn to Alma 11:44 and we read, “and shall be brought and be arraigned before the bar of Christ the Son, and God the Father, and the Holy Spirit, which is one Eternal God.”  I also had them turn to Mormon 7:7 “to sing ceaseless praises with the choirs above, unto the Father, and unto the Son, and unto the Holy Ghost, which are one God…”  I asked how you can reconcile the fact the Book of Mormon seems to support the Trinity, which is our view.  Livingston honestly confided these verses bothered him and he had no good explanation.  Elder Baker didn’t have anything to say about either of these verses.

Finally, we began to wrap things up as they needed to go.  Livingston said the two of them have really enjoyed meeting with us.  He said they looked forward to each week.  He told us we were different than others they had met with.  We were willing to admit we could be wrong and were open to finding the truth.  Too many times when they have met with others, these individuals try to jam their viewpoint down their throats.  They told us they would leave in anger and soon quit meeting.  But they said meeting with us was different.  Elder Livingston said how much he will miss our time together but wanted to keep in touch.  He gave each of us his business card which has his address on it and his home number.  He said he would not forget us and would keep in touch.  We set up a new day for Elder Baker and his new partner to study with us the following week.

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