Essential Doctrine 2: Jesus is fully God and fully man

by Steve on December 15, 2009 · 6 comments

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1 Christian December 15, 2009 at 9:42 pm

Grace, mercy and peace from God the Father and Christ Jesus our Lord. Christian

2 Me!! November 14, 2011 at 11:48 pm

Uhmm.. yeah but whats the verse that says that He is fully man and fully God??? Or is there no actual verse that says this, just a bunch of different verses put together?? Because I’ve been looking for it for ages!!!!!

3 Steve November 15, 2011 at 6:14 am

Caralee,
What verse in the Bible says unless the words meet your standard they cannot be true? I have been looking for those words for ages!!!!! Please provide your scriptural support.

Sorry for my sick humor. If you think something can only be true in the Bible, only if it has the exact words, then your going to have use the same criteria on your statement. I hope you see how absurd your request is. It is self-refuting. All Scripture has to be interpreted, and as such, people will use words that are not exactly the words of the Bible to describe theological realities. Your interpreting my post caused you to use non-Biblical words. Does that mean you were wrong?

Steve

4 C. McCoy July 2, 2012 at 2:35 pm

Satan has deceived the whole world. Think about that! Yet, the majority of the western world are “christians” (people who believe in Jesus Christ). Interesting.

The bible does not say that Jesus is God because Jesus is not God, nor is He in some ridiculous mysterious unexplainable trinity.

Understand the gospel; the beauty of what Jesus accomplished/endured; believe that God is a spirit.

Jesus is a man. God is a spirit who is holy. Jesus was born from the virgin mary by the spirit of God. Jesus was indwelled with God….but He was not God. Just as those who come to God by faith in Jesus, do also receive God.

Do you understand why Jesus can’t be God? God is sooooooooo holy. He cannot be tempted with evil. Jesus is a man, He endured every temptation…sinless. Jesus is the author of our salvation, because He walked and marked the path for us to walk. To God, this would be nothing.

Come away from man’s doctrine, and re-read the scriptures with an open-mind, unhindered by everything you have heard. If you have the Spirit of God within you, He will show if you seek Him diligently. Jesus said that you would need that no man teach you. Believe Him!

5 Steve July 5, 2012 at 6:39 am

Dear C. McCoy,
Thanks for writing. I agree Satan has deceived the world. Unbelievers have been blinded to the truth of the Bible and to the gospel (2 Cor. 4:3-4).

You then say “The bible does not say that Jesus is God because Jesus is not God.” What you need to read is my entire series “Believing in Jesus as God and Man.” It will more fully explain what you don’t understand. Then you say there is no Trinity. Did you read my series on the Trinity? If you had read both it would have answered many of the questions you have about these issues.
You make lots of statements unsupported by any scriptures. Philippians 2:6-8 explains how Jesus can be fully God and fully man. “…who, although He existed in the form of God, did not regard equality with God a thing to be grasped, 7 but emptied Himself, taking the form of a bond-servant, and being made in the likeness of men. 8 Being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself by becoming obedient to the point of death, even death on a cross.”In the words, “…did not regard equality with God a thing to be grasped,” we see the choice of the Son to empty Himself of His divine rights by becoming a man and also emptying Himself of His human rights by becoming a servant.

The story of the King becoming a pauper is the best illustration. The King is on the throne, with his regal splendor and people waiting on him. Then one day he changes into the robes of a common beggar to interact with the subjects of his kingdom. Never once does the King stop being King; he just lays aside his prerogatives, his kingly rights, his privileges to become this pauper. This is what Jesus does. He lays aside the prerogatives, his privileges of God and takes on a human nature. He is still fully God and becomes a servant of men and eventually dies the death of common criminal. The application is for us is to become humble like Jesus, who humbled himself unto death.

Jesus did not lay aside his deity- He can’t do that. He laid aside only His privileges of deity, not His divine nature. As a human He had to learn like we do, to grow in understanding and knowledge (Luke 2:52). Some contend that on earth Jesus did not make use of His own powers of deity.

At the Incarnation God takes on human flesh. The Kenosis is where Jesus humbles himself and lays aside the prerogatives of being divine. However, Jesus never ceases being God–He “gives up” the privilege and glory. When we read the words “…existing in the form of God” it means Jesus was fully God. And in when Paul writes, “taking the form of a servant” he means Jesus was fully man. The word form means nature. Jesus had 2 natures; a human nature and a divine nature.

You say he was simply a man with God’s spirit within him ignoring what the Bible clearly teaches above and elsewhere? John 1:1 says, “In the beginning was the word [Jesus] and the word was with God [the Father] and the word was God.” Verse 14 then says, “And the word became flesh and dwelt among us.” Can anything be clearer? God takes on human flesh and lives among humans.

The only argument you provided was that Jesus was tempted and God cannot be tempted (James 1:13). Jesus was tempted in his humanity as the book of Hebrews states but not in his divinity. Remember Jesus in his humanity got tired, grew in knowledge, and was tempted but didn’t sin. In his divinity he didn’t get tired, he was omniscient (all knowledge), and he couldn’t be tempted. No violation of scripture in Jesus being fully God and fully man.

My suggestion is to read my series on Jesus as the God/man, the Trinity series, and the book of John with an open mind. I truly believe you will see how Jesus is fully God and fully man. The evidence is overwhelming.

Steve Bruecker

6 Gordon November 8, 2012 at 10:01 am

In John 8:58, Jesus himself made the claim that he was God. Cross reference that with Exodus 3:14, how can you deny that he is God. If this were not true, why would God have allowed him to make the claim without striking him dead or accusing him of being Lucifer the fallen angel?